Question
We’re needing to replace our Furnace. Since we live in upstate NY, in the
Snow Belt,
I’m sold on the idea of two stage or variable speed furnaces.
The one that looks the best in this regard is a Rheem Contour (also sold
as
a Ruud, or
Weatherking.) I was wondering if anyone had experience with this product,
and
if you have any recollection of how it would compare in price with another
name high efficency,
brand furnace from Lennox, Carrier etc. From the little I’ve heard, it
provides a very comfortable
Answers
The Ruud is a modulating furnace, it varies the burner output from 40% of
rated output to 100% depending on the heating load required. I have
installed a few. As long as it is installed properly it is a trouble free
furnace, screw up the install and it is a hand full! Make sure you get a
experienced contractor to do the install.
As far as price, it varies with parts of the country, some dealers get
better cuts on prices than others, and labor rates, varies all over the map.
It will compare in price with two stage or multi-stage furnaces.
Greg
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We’re needing to replace our Furnace. Since we live in upstate NY, in the
> Snow Belt,
> I’m sold on the idea of two stage or variable speed furnaces.
> The one that looks the best in this regard is a Rheem Contour (also sold
as
> a Ruud, or
> Weatherking.) I was wondering if anyone had experience with this product,
> and
> if you have any recollection of how it would compare in price with another
> name high efficency,
> brand furnace from Lennox, Carrier etc. From the little I’ve heard, it
> provides a very comfortable
C. Answers
The Ruud is a modulating furnace, it varies the burner output from 40% of
rated output to 100% depending on the heating load required. I have
installed a few. As long as it is installed properly it is a trouble free
furnace, screw up the install and it is a hand full! Make sure you get a
experienced contractor to do the install.
As far as price, it varies with parts of the country, some dealers get
better cuts on prices than others, and labor rates, varies all over the map.
It will compare in price with two stage or multi-stage furnaces.
Greg
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Question:1
Subject:Compare furnace brands Trane versus Westinghouse?
Content::We’re trying to decide whether to spend the extra money on Trane. We’ve heard Westinghouse furnace and heat pumps are good quality and less expensive. Would like to get homeowners’ or hvac contractors’ opinions.
BestAnswer:You probably heard they were good from the dealer that sells them. Most of the time you get what you pay for. If you live in a metropolitan area I would get another price on the same make from another dealer just so you know their in line. I think you will always have the best chance of getting a quality product and installation by buying the top name brands. They will be more likely to be around and supply replacement parts that may be needed in the future.
Question:2
Subject:A question for mobile home owners with an electric furnace?
Content::How does an electric furnace compare with an oil furnace both in heating efficiency and overall costs?
BestAnswer:As far as efficiency, electric is tops; 100 percent of the money you spend on fuel gets used to heat the home; none goes up a chimney. The drawback is the cost of electric power is the most expensive. If you have to go electric, consider a heat pump. You pay to move the heat, but not the heat itself. It also serves as an A/C in summer. Heat pumps are only efficient when the weather is above 40* and dry. Oil furnaces have come a long way in the past few years. They are much more efficient, cleaner burning, and lower maintenance than in the past. Drawback is you pay quite a bit for fuel all at one time, unless you are with a company that lets you spread payments out over the season. The tank can also be an issue with some folks. On the up side, newer furnaces can burn bio-diesel. As for safety, “oil” is actually diesel fuel. It must be mixed with oxygen in order to burn. There is little to no danger of uncontrolled fire from diesel-oil fuel. Dollar for dollar, oil is less expensive to operate.
Question:3
Subject:What is the savings I could expect when I use a heat pump instead of a gas furnace?
Content::I live in NE PA and am trying to compare with a 90% furnace.
BestAnswer:Unless you go with something like a groundsource heat pump, you’ll be mostly heating with electricity all winter if you do the heat pump — once temps of the source of the heat the heat pump is extracting drop below 0oF, they’re just the equal of running electric strip heaters. When temperatures outside are fairly warm — for instance, here in western Or valleys, most of the winter we’ve got temps in the 40’s– we get about twice as much heat per unit of electricity used if we use an air source heat pump instead of an electric strip heater. That difference is called COP, coefficient of performance. The closer the indoor and outdoor temps are together, the better the COP, up to 3 or 4. When you get down to around 0oF, COP is about 1 for a heat pump (and not a whole lot better than that around freezing!) I would bet your local power company can calculate the costs of a heat pump vs. gas furnace, given your power usage for the last few years. My guess is the gas furnace is going to be the winner here when costed out over a reasonable period of years. The other advantage of a heat pump is that it can also be used as central air conditioning in the summer — that’s an add-on to a gas furnace. You may want to include that in your calculations. Or not.
Question:4
Subject:How much should a 95% Trane Furnace cost installed?
Content::I’m looking to upgrade my furnace and take advantage of the 1500 tax credit. I know it has to be a 95% efficiency. Any idea what this should cost? I’m going to get a few different estimates to compare, but would like to know if anyone has had one installed recently. Thanks! (Furnace Only)…
BestAnswer:4 to 5 grand depending on size and if there is a lot of re-piping of duct and or gas line to do.
Question:5
Subject:Is there a comparison between MERV ratings for furnace filters and CADR rat tings for air purifiers?
Content::Looking to buy an air purifier and was trying to compare/find the difference between MERV ratings on a furnace filter and CADR ratings for an Air Purifier.
BestAnswer:MERV: Minimum Efficiency Reporting Value, commonly known as MERV Rating is a measurement scale designed to rate the effectiveness of air filters. The scale is designed to represent the worst case performance of a filter when dealing with particles in the range of 0.3 to 10 microns. The MERV rating is from 1 to 16. Higher MERV ratings correspond to a greater percentage of particles captured on each pass. CADR: Clean Air Delivery Rate (CADR) indicates the volume of filtered air delivered by an air cleaner. CADR also determines how well an air cleaner reduces pollutants such as tobacco smoke, pollen and dust. The higher the tobacco smoke, pollen and dust numbers, the faster the unit filters the air.
Question:6
Subject:would installing a ventless gas stove be an effecient way to heat an old home as compared to a furnace?
Content::
BestAnswer:The new vent-free gas heaters are not meant to be the primary source for home heating. They present a couple of problems such as requiring additional air for combustion and ventilation. So a window or something has to be left cracked to supply the air. They put off alot of moisture (a normal by-product of combustion), so the house will feel “sticky”, and they don’t normally have the BTU capacity to heat a whole house.
Question:7
Subject:compare the process of feedback inhibition to the function of a furnace thermostat.?
Content::
BestAnswer:well a furnace reuglates tempurture…
Question:8
Subject:How to figure out how green my wood furnace is?
Content::I have a wood burning furnace and want to know how energy efficient it is compared to heating with oil. I called the company but they had no information on emissions. Is there a place I can find this information or is there a way I can measure it?
BestAnswer:You can try here for that. http://www.squidoo.com/outdoor-wood-furnaces
Question:9
Subject:Anyone replace their oil or gas fired home furnace with a dual fuel (wood/oil or gas/oil) unit?
Content::My dad is planning to replace his oil-fired furnace. Someone had mentioned to him the existence of a dual fueled unit, one that can use wood or oil. He has a good amount of firewood available, so, the only cost associated with it would be harvesting the dead wood and splitting it. Does anyone have any experience with such a unit? How well does it heat when using wood vs. using oil? Can you run it for extended periods on oil (say, if you are on vacation for a few weeks)? Compared to replacing with an oil-only unit, would a dual-fuel unit have a positive,negative or no effect on the value of the home (ie. is having a dual fueled unit viewed negatively by potential buyers, since he is also considering putting his house on the market in another year or two)? Thanks!
BestAnswer:Dual fuel furnaces are very inefficient when using the oil or gas burners and can be a maintenance problem for these components.Some where poorly designed and when throwing wood in you could do damage to the burner chamber for the oil and gas side and one I worked on the oil burner was below the wood door so it was often damaged when wood fell on it.If you are going to burn mostly wood and only oil once in a while and the oil burner is up high and out of the way of the wood it might be a good choice.If not you are going to burn a lot of oil compared to a single fuel furnace.I would say to install a wood furnace next to an oil furnace but that would require a second chimney because a duel fuel furnace is the only way to burn wood and oil in one chimney by code.
Question:10
Subject:How severe can a gas furnace explosion be?
Content::I’m considering buying a home with natural gas but I”m concerned about the dangers associated with it. I have heard that a natural gas furnace can explode and I’m wondering, in the worst case scenario, weather that would be compared to the kind of explosions you see happen with Propane heated homes, where it basically levels the whole house, or weather gas furnace explosions are more likely to only do damage to the furnace itself or the basement.
BestAnswer:The good news is that all the newer furnaces (last 10 yrs or so) have many safety devices that older ones to not. One of the largest causes of gas explosions is with delayed ignition. This is where one or more burners do not light off until a load of gas has built up. It is usually caused by scale, household lint, burner alignment, and on a few improper air mixture or cracks in the heat exchanger. Newer furnaces will shut off the gas flow typically in 3 to 5 seconds if full ignition is not sensed. It may retry a few times before locking out. Propane is heavier than the air in your home so is even more dangerous. In fact my insurance prohibits me from working on propane. A yearly check should be done including a cleaning. This past summer I was on an a/c call and asked if I should check the boiler while I was there. He was hesitant. “It works fine, no problems, blah, blah, blah.” The upshot is I did end up checking it. He had one of those 1 in 10,000 issues I have seen only twice in 40 years. Had his pilot gone out on a 100% shut off redundant gas valve raw gas would have filled the room until finally the water heater would have lit it off! I do not have facts but would guess that 95% of furnace explosions could have been prevented with a yearly service call and cleaning. Again the newer units have so many safety switches built in that they almost can not even start much less run when there is a safety issue. In short, do not be afraid. Just have it checked yearly.