Furnace DIY » Furnace Maintenance » Flow Furnace

Flow Furnace

Question

I put in a 150k btu comfortmaker furnace last year for a friend.  Now the

furnace is shutting down on startup.  The Furnace uses a White Rodgers  model #

50A50-112 control module which provides an LED that “blinks” trouble codes.

The problem is it “blinks” six times and there are only trouble codes for

“blinks” of 1 to 5.  The module uses a “flame sensor that appears to be just a

piece of wire in the flame ( I assume it uses a plasma effect to detect the

flame).  Has anybody else had a similar problem?  Please E-mail at

if you have any ideas.

Answers

I saw this once before where there was no code for a 6 flash, it may be

something to do with neutral and hot mixed up where power comes into

control compartment or mixed up in conduit. Check and make sure neutral

is actually eventually connected to the neutral bar at your load center.

You may want to make sure that the furnace is grounded well.

I do know I had to call comfortmaker to help figure out what was

happening.

Associated Flow Furnace Question:

Carrier 3 stage furnace flow to all rooms evenly?

In my old house, one room got freezing cold when I switched to a 2 stage furnace. The duct was on an outer wall and furthest from the furnace. The old system heated the same room better. I dampened other ducts to give that room more air flow.

  • Well, first stage supply temps on the 2 stage furnaces are lower than first stage of the standard forced air system. The btu output is about 30 percent lower or so on the 2 stagers supply, I’m guessing, 110 degree air instead of the standard’s 140 degree air. So, your colder room is getting lower temperature supplied to it. These kinds of furnaces perform the best in new construction or in condos where the insulation is even. I see them in those homes in gated communities and they are fine. But, the traditional furnaces that blast out the heat, i think, are still the best for the older homes. So what can you do about it ? You can’t go back, so you could insulate that run of duct to that cold room or the walls in it. That’s the only thing I can think of to make it warmer.

Associated Flow Furnace Question:Have little air flow coming from furnace through upstairs registers. Can I replace blower with larger blower?Have little air flow coming from furnace through upstairs registers. Can I replace existing blower with larger blower? The furnace is 20 yrs old, had this problem ever since I moved into the home last year.

  • Answer:furnace may be too small, and old furnace fans only run 1725 rpm, newer ones run faster at 20 yrs its time for a new one, you can install duct booster fans [fits in the duct]

Associated Flow Furnace Question:

i am trying to convert up flow furnace in to down flow is that poss? can just turn the blower around ?

ca i turn the blower around and install it that way?…is there a kit that could help me do that?….thank you.

  • Answer:blower has to be before heat exchanger so you don’t cook motor. I haven’t ever tried but if there is not enough room for duct out top 2 floor and out bottom to return duct, then i suppose you can have a blower compartment made to set down draft blower on top then set evap. coil (if applicable) in old blower section. most heaters are multi position and you can set it up horizontally. good luck.

Associated Flow Furnace Question:

Down flow gas furnace is acting up. All burners not fully lighting regularly?

The hot surface igniter glows red, gas valve opens and ignites gas in one of three chambers. After about 10 seconds, sometimes the “flame” travels to the other two chambers like it is supposed to. Sometimes the flame does not travel to the other two chambers and the furnace recycles and tries again. The flame sensor is in the chamber farthest from the chamber with the hot surface igniter that lights up first. The furnace is in a new home that is about 3 years old. I have also noticed that I have 3 cylindrical sensors in the burner area that appear to have reset buttons on the tops of them. I am guessing these are the flame “rollout” sensors. Does this sound like dirty burners or “crossovers”? Record cold temps are on their way and would really like to get the furnace operating correclty. Please help.

  • Answer:sounds like dirty. if burners have air adjustments too much air mixing with gas. switches are safety for over heat and roll out. try shifting burners around and see if jump slot on burners are open

Associated Flow Furnace Question:

why is my furnace over flow tube filling up with water now when the heat is on?

It used to only fill up in the summer with the air conditioner running.

  • Answer:Is this a newer furnace? If so , is it a high efficient furnace? If it is it will have plastic venting and the water is due to the condensate produced from the low temperature flue gases. When gas burns one of the by products is water, ussually this makes it up and out the chimney when the flue gas is hot. On high efficient furnaces they absorb so much of the heat the flue gas temperature is much lower, and starts to drop the moisture out of the flue gas. Your venting is designed to slope back to the furnace and drain the water back to the drain. If the “flow tube” is overflowing then there is probably a problem with the drain line being plugged. At that point the heat exchanger can fill with water and the preasure switch for the venting will not work and the furnace will not run anymore. Water comming out is normal, water backing up into the furnace is not.

How can I increase the air flow from my furnace?

I have a dayton blower motor 6K778. It is 1/3 hsp and provides1725 rpm.

  • Answer:You could get a Miltie speed replacement from A.O.Smith.

Associated Flow Furnace Question:

Can blockage of fan air flow from furnace cause carbon monoxide buildup? The A/C coil was plugged with debris.

The furnace tech got readings over 500 ppm of CO at the vent. He told us it was our heat exchanger that was leaking. As we were installing the new furnace, he discovered th A/C coil in the plenum was blocked with burned foil and insulation from the enclosure around the heat exchanger. The Heat exchanger seems okay, but has a scorch mark on it, as does the outside casing of the furnace (The furnace was suspended below and tight to a wood floor where this scorching occured). Was the furnace inspected properly, or was it a hasty call? They shut off our gas supply and told us we had to get a new furnace. Thanks.

  • Answer:a stopped up evaporator coil will not affect the leaking of CO. on almost all furnaces/air handlers the fan draws air through the evaporator coil (A coil) and then blows it through the furnace heat exchanger. this is done for a reason. the induced draft blower creates a partial vacuum inside of the heat exchanger, by sucking the combustion air and gasses through it. if the return air supply was totally blocked (in your case it was only partially blocked) the inside of the heat exchanger would still have a lower pressure on it. when a heat exchanger fails enough to leak, it usually has a crack that most folks cant find. the reason it leaks is when the exchanger gets hot the crack opens up and creates a scoop that builds negative pressure on the down wind side of the crack. this scoop sucks out the combustion gasses into the surrounding air. if you have a saws all cut it apart and you will find a small crack that probably wont even be open when the unit is cool, but will gape when it was hot. the bottom line is, if you were getting 500 ppm CO out of a floor vent, you have a crack some where, and a bad one at that. Possum, HVAC guy ps… most 90+ efficiency furnaces can be installed zero clearance (touching) on all sides…so nothing to worry about there

Associated Flow Furnace Question:

When I replace my filter for the furnace, should the “air flow” arrows point towards the furnace itself or

towards the ductwork on the other side. Or to make it simpler, to the left or to the right. Thanks.

  • Answer:you need to identify which ducts feed outward and which feed back into furnace. 1. find big vent in your house which is the feed going back into furnace 2. open the furnace door 3. locate duct feeding into furnace 4. and arrow of filter should be pointing opposite direction of feed vent

Associated Flow Furnace Question:

what is the difference between a down-flow furnace and a up-flow furnace?

  • Answer:downflows are usually put in attic and upflows are usually in the basement.

Associated Flow Furnace Question:

Looking for the filter on a Williamson Therm flow oil furnace?

  • Answer:some are in the door some are in a slide in box on the side , do you have an up flow or a down flow furnace / some are on top

Related Posts

Leave a Reply