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Iron Blast Furnace

Question
I am a Chem E (with little-to-no experience in the Steel Industry) and
have been tasked with finding or developing a model for an iron blast
furnace to be used in model predictive control (MPC). A friend has
referred me to “The Iron Blast Furnace, Theory and Practice” by J.G.
Peacey and W.G. Davenport, Pergamon, 1979.

My questions are:

1) Does code for Peacey’s model exist and is it available over the net?
2) Does anyone know of any other available codes that are appropriate for
use in MPC?

MPC uses a process model to predict future process performance. The
predicted performance is compared to desired performance and proposed
control actions (operating conditions) are optimized to minimize the
difference between the two. A model that can be executed several times
per control action is required if the MPC controller uses an iterative
optimization routine. CFD codes that require massive computational power
would not be applicable.

Thank you for your time. I would appreciate any advise you can offer.
Please reply by either post or email.

Answers
I work for a company that specializes in phenomenological model-based control
mostly of mineral processing plants. Although, we have not done a blast
furnace in particular, we have done models for reheat furnaces (used in heat
treatment of steel) and induration processes (used in pelletizing). If you’d
like more information on the methodology we use to model processes, we have
several published papers. You may want to contact Dr. Bill Pate in our office
(since the modeling part is not my specialty), at Control International, Inc
(801) 583-0700. You can tell him I left a message here for you.
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Associated Iron Blast Furnace Question: How does limestone purify iron in a blast furnace?
I just want to know simply how limestone purifies iron in a blast furnace :)

  • Answer:It removes the sandy impurities in the iron formed as ’slag’ [calcium silicate] CaCO3—> CaO + CO2 CaO + SiO2 —-> CaSiO3. This forms a separate immiscible layer to the molten iron and can be run off. The slag is rather useless .. it can be used in road foundations .. but its uselessness led to the derogatory term ’slag’ in the English language eg she’s a ’slag’

Associated Iron Blast Furnace Question:Chemistry question !!! Iron & blast furnace..please help !!?
:Explain why using the blast furnace makes iron cheaper than a lot of other metals ????

  • Answer:Because iron oxide is easily reduce to elemental iron with carbon. You can’t do that with bauxite.

Associated Iron Blast Furnace Question:How many kilograms of limestone should be added for every kilogram of iron ore processed in a blast furnace ?
How many kilograms of limestone should be added for every kilogram of iron ore processed in a blast furnace if the limestone is 91.40% pure and the iron ore contains 14.40% SiO2 by mass? (Note: SiO2(s) + CaCO3(s) –> CaSiO3(s) + CO2(g))

  • Answer:Let UNITs guide you; always USE THEM in your calculation to prevent errors SiO2(s) + CaCO3(s) –> CaSiO3(s) + CO2(g) kmoles CaCO3 / kg limestone = 0.9140 kg of CaCO3/MW CaCO3 in kg/kmoles = ?? kmole of SiO2 / kg ore = 0.1440 kg of SiO2 / MW of SiO2 in kg/kmole = ?? kg limestone / kg ore = kmoles SiO2/kg of ore / kmoles CaCO3/kg of limestone = ?? Plug and SOLVE Basic mathematics is a prerequisite to chemistry – I just try to help you with the methodology of solving the problem.

Associated Iron Blast Furnace Question:what is the compsition of pellet which is used blast furnace iron making ?

  • Answer: This Question has not been answered yet! Send us Your best iron blast furnace Answer!

Associated Iron Blast Furnace Question::The Extraction of Iron: The Blast Furnace?
What property enables the molten iron to be separanted from the molten slag in the blast furnace? answer a.s.ap! thanks x xx

  • Answer:Slag is the result of the reaction of the calcium from the limestone used to charge the furnace and impurities, largely silicon in the iron ore. These calcium silicates are much less dense than the molten iron and so float on the surface. Tapping of the iron takes place through tapping holes at a level lower then the surface, so it is simple physical seperation that allows the iron to be drawn off from underneath the slag

Associated Iron Blast Furnace Question:Questions on the production of Iron in a blast furnace.?
I am currently working on an assignment and I came across these questions that I am not clear of. 1. Why is the temperature of the slag much lower than 1600 degrees? 2. What process does the slag prevents from occuring in the iron? (sloag floats on it) 3. Why might the furnace explode if wet substances were added?

  • Answer: This Question has not been answered yet! Send us Your best iron blast furnace Answer!

Associated Iron Blast Furnace Question:A blast furnace can produce 700 tonnes of iron a day. How much iron (III) will be consumed?
A blast furnace can produce 700 tonnes of iron a day. How much iron (III) oxide will be consumed? Assuming coke is pure carbon, how much coke would be needed to produce the necessary carbon monoxide? Fe2O3 + 3CO –> 2Fe + 3CO2 2c + O2 –> 2CO Any help will be appreciated!

  • Answer: This Question has not been answered yet! Send us Your best iron blast furnace Answer!

Associated Iron Blast Furnace Question:what are the 5 major functions of a blast furnace,Is pig iron ductile ?
:Has to to with Welding the Production of Metals.

  • Answer:The 5 functions of a blast furnace or 5 stages of smelting are Feed, Pre-Heat, Reduction of ferric oxide, Reduction of ferrous oxide, and melting. Pig iron is not considered a ductile iron. Much too brittle.

Associated Iron Blast Furnace Question:How does a blast furnace convert iron ore into pig iron?
Thanks!

  • Answer:The more advanced way to smelt iron is in a blast furnace. A blast furnace is charged with iron ore, charcoal or coke (coke is charcoal made from coal) and limestone (CaCO3­). Huge quantities of air blast in at the bottom of the furnace, and the calcium in the limestone combines with the silicates to form slag. Liquid iron collects at the bottom of the blast furnace, underneath a layer of slag. The blacksmith periodically lets the liquid iron flow out and cool. At this point, the liquid iron typically flows through a channel and into a bed of sand. Once it cools, this metal is known as pig iron. To create a ton of pig iron, you start with 2 tons (1.8 metric tons) of ore, 1 ton of coke (0.9 metric tons) and a half ton (0.45 metric tons) of limestone. The fire consumes 5 tons (4.5 metric tons) of air. The temperature at the core of the blast furnace reaches nearly 3,000 degrees F (about 1,600 degrees C). ­Pig iron contains 4 to 5 percent carbon and is so hard and brittle that it’s almost useless. If you want to do anything with it, you have three options. First, you can melt it, mix it with slag and hammer it out to eliminate most of the carbon (down to 0.3 percent) and create strong, malleable wrought iron. The second option is to melt the pig iron and combine it with scrap iron, smelt out impurities and add alloys to form cast iron. This metal contains 2 to 4 percent carbon, along with quantities of silicon, manganese and trace impurities. Cast iron, as the name implies, is typically cast into molds to form a wide variety of parts and products.

Associated Iron Blast Furnace Question:What reactions take place when iron is extracted from iron ore in a blast furnace?
I’ve looked up my notes and searched it up but i’m really stuck :| Thanks for any help – I really appreciate it!

  • Answer:The main chemical reaction producing the molten iron is: Fe2O3 + 3CO → 2Fe + 3CO2[33] Preheated blast air blown into the furnace reacts with the carbon in the form of coke to produce carbon monoxide and heat. The carbon monoxide then reacts with the iron oxide to produce molten iron and carbon dioxide. Hot carbon dioxide, unreacted carbon monoxide, and nitrogen from the air pass up through the furnace as fresh feed material travels down into the reaction zone. As the material travels downward, the counter-current gases both preheat the feed charge, decompose the limestone to calcium oxide and carbon dioxide, and begin to reduce the iron oxides in the solid state. The main reaction controlling the gas atmosphere in the furnace is called the Boudouard reaction: C + O2 → CO2[33] CO2 + C → 2CO[33] The decomposition of limestone in the middle zones of the furnace proceeds according to the following reaction: CaCO3 → CaO + CO2[29] The calcium oxide formed by decomposition reacts with various acidic impurities in the iron (notably silica), to form a fayalitic slag which is essentially calcium silicate, CaSiO3:[33] SiO2 + CaO → CaSiO3[34] The “pig iron” produced by the blast furnace has a relatively high carbon content of around 4–5%, making it very brittle, and of limited immediate commercial use. Some pig iron is used to make cast iron. The majority of pig iron produced by blast furnaces undergoes further processing to reduce the carbon content and produce various grades of steel used for tools and construction materials. Although the efficiency of blast furnaces is constantly evolving, the chemical process inside the blast furnace remains the same. According to the American Iron and Steel Institute: “Blast furnaces will survive into the next millennium because the larger, efficient furnaces can produce hot metal at costs competitive with other iron making technologies.”[29] One of the biggest drawbacks of the blast furnaces is the inevitable carbon dioxide production as iron is reduced from iron oxides by carbon and there is no economical substitute – steelmaking is one of the unavoidable industrial contributors of the CO2 emissions in the world (see greenhouse gases). Hope this helps
A. Keyword
iron blast furnace
B. Question
I am a Chem E (with little-to-no experience in the Steel Industry) and
have been tasked with finding or developing a model for an iron blast
furnace to be used in model predictive control (MPC).  A friend has
referred me to “The Iron Blast Furnace, Theory and Practice” by J.G.
Peacey and W.G. Davenport, Pergamon, 1979.

My questions are:

1) Does code for Peacey’s model exist and is it available over the net?
2) Does anyone know of any other available codes that are appropriate for
use in MPC?

MPC uses a process model to predict future process performance.  The
predicted performance is compared to desired performance and proposed
control actions (operating conditions) are optimized to minimize the
difference between the two.  A model that can be executed several times
per control action is required if the MPC controller uses an iterative
optimization routine.  CFD codes that require massive computational power
would not be applicable.

Thank you for your time.  I would appreciate any advise you can offer.
Please reply by either post or email.
C. Answers
I work for a company that specializes in phenomenological model-based control
mostly of mineral processing plants.  Although, we have not done a blast
furnace in particular, we have done models for reheat furnaces (used in heat
treatment of steel) and induration processes (used in pelletizing).  If you’d
like more information on the methodology we use to model processes, we have
several published papers.  You may want to contact Dr. Bill Pate in our office
(since the modeling part is not my specialty), at Control International, Inc
(801) 583-0700.  You can tell him I left a message here for you.
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Question:1
Subject:How does limestone purify iron in a blast furnace?
Content::I just want to know simply how limestone purifies iron in a blast furnace :)
BestAnswer:It removes the sandy impurities in the iron formed as ’slag’ [calcium silicate] CaCO3—> CaO + CO2 CaO + SiO2 —-> CaSiO3. This forms a separate immiscible layer to the molten iron and can be run off. The slag is rather useless .. it can be used in road foundations .. but its uselessness led to the derogatory term ’slag’ in the English language eg she’s a ’slag’

Question:2
Subject:Chemistry question !!! Iron & blast furnace..please help !!?
Content::Explain why using the blast furnace makes iron cheaper than a lot of other metals ????
BestAnswer:Because iron oxide is easily reduce to elemental iron with carbon. You can’t do that with bauxite.

Question:3
Subject:How many kilograms of limestone should be added for every kilogram of iron ore processed in a blast furnace ?
Content::How many kilograms of limestone should be added for every kilogram of iron ore processed in a blast furnace if the limestone is 91.40% pure and the iron ore contains 14.40% SiO2 by mass? (Note: SiO2(s) + CaCO3(s) –> CaSiO3(s) + CO2(g))
BestAnswer:Let UNITs guide you; always USE THEM in your calculation to prevent errors SiO2(s) + CaCO3(s) –> CaSiO3(s) + CO2(g) kmoles CaCO3 / kg limestone = 0.9140 kg of CaCO3/MW CaCO3 in kg/kmoles = ?? kmole of SiO2 / kg ore = 0.1440 kg of SiO2 / MW of SiO2 in kg/kmole = ?? kg limestone / kg ore = kmoles SiO2/kg of ore / kmoles CaCO3/kg of limestone = ?? Plug and SOLVE Basic mathematics is a prerequisite to chemistry – I just try to help you with the methodology of solving the problem.

Question:4
Subject:what is the compsition of pellet which is used blast furnace iron making ?
Content::
BestAnswer: This Question has not been answered yet! Send us Your best iron blast furnace Answer!

Question:4
Subject:The Extraction of Iron: The Blast Furnace?
Content::What property enables the molten iron to be separanted from the molten slag in the blast furnace? answer a.s.ap! thanks x xx
BestAnswer:Slag is the result of the reaction of the calcium from the limestone used to charge the furnace and impurities, largely silicon in the iron ore. These calcium silicates are much less dense than the molten iron and so float on the surface. Tapping of the iron takes place through tapping holes at a level lower then the surface, so it is simple physical seperation that allows the iron to be drawn off from underneath the slag

Question:5
Subject:Questions on the production of Iron in a blast furnace.?
Content::I am currently working on an assignment and I came across these questions that I am not clear of. 1. Why is the temperature of the slag much lower than 1600 degrees? 2. What process does the slag prevents from occuring in the iron? (sloag floats on it) 3. Why might the furnace explode if wet substances were added?
BestAnswer: This Question has not been answered yet! Send us Your best iron blast furnace Answer!

Question:5
Subject:A blast furnace can produce 700 tonnes of iron a day. How much iron (III) will be consumed?
Content::A blast furnace can produce 700 tonnes of iron a day. How much iron (III) oxide will be consumed? Assuming coke is pure carbon, how much coke would be needed to produce the necessary carbon monoxide? Fe2O3 + 3CO –> 2Fe + 3CO2 2c + O2 –> 2CO Any help will be appreciated!
BestAnswer: This Question has not been answered yet! Send us Your best iron blast furnace Answer!

Question:5
Subject:what are the 5 major functions of a blast furnace,Is pig iron ductile ?
Content::Has to to with Welding the Production of Metals.
BestAnswer:The 5 functions of a blast furnace or 5 stages of smelting are Feed, Pre-Heat, Reduction of ferric oxide, Reduction of ferrous oxide, and melting. Pig iron is not considered a ductile iron. Much too brittle.

Question:6
Subject:How does a blast furnace convert iron ore into pig iron?
Content::Thanks!
BestAnswer:The more advanced way to smelt iron is in a blast furnace. A blast furnace is charged with iron ore, charcoal or coke (coke is charcoal made from coal) and limestone (CaCO3­). Huge quantities of air blast in at the bottom of the furnace, and the calcium in the limestone combines with the silicates to form slag. Liquid iron collects at the bottom of the blast furnace, underneath a layer of slag. The blacksmith periodically lets the liquid iron flow out and cool. At this point, the liquid iron typically flows through a channel and into a bed of sand. Once it cools, this metal is known as pig iron. To create a ton of pig iron, you start with 2 tons (1.8 metric tons) of ore, 1 ton of coke (0.9 metric tons) and a half ton (0.45 metric tons) of limestone. The fire consumes 5 tons (4.5 metric tons) of air. The temperature at the core of the blast furnace reaches nearly 3,000 degrees F (about 1,600 degrees C). ­Pig iron contains 4 to 5 percent carbon and is so hard and brittle that it’s almost useless. If you want to do anything with it, you have three options. First, you can melt it, mix it with slag and hammer it out to eliminate most of the carbon (down to 0.3 percent) and create strong, malleable wrought iron. The second option is to melt the pig iron and combine it with scrap iron, smelt out impurities and add alloys to form cast iron. This metal contains 2 to 4 percent carbon, along with quantities of silicon, manganese and trace impurities. Cast iron, as the name implies, is typically cast into molds to form a wide variety of parts and products.

Question:7
Subject:What reactions take place when iron is extracted from iron ore in a blast furnace?
Content::I’ve looked up my notes and searched it up but i’m really stuck :| Thanks for any help – I really appreciate it!
BestAnswer:The main chemical reaction producing the molten iron is: Fe2O3 + 3CO → 2Fe + 3CO2[33] Preheated blast air blown into the furnace reacts with the carbon in the form of coke to produce carbon monoxide and heat. The carbon monoxide then reacts with the iron oxide to produce molten iron and carbon dioxide. Hot carbon dioxide, unreacted carbon monoxide, and nitrogen from the air pass up through the furnace as fresh feed material travels down into the reaction zone. As the material travels downward, the counter-current gases both preheat the feed charge, decompose the limestone to calcium oxide and carbon dioxide, and begin to reduce the iron oxides in the solid state. The main reaction controlling the gas atmosphere in the furnace is called the Boudouard reaction: C + O2 → CO2[33] CO2 + C → 2CO[33] The decomposition of limestone in the middle zones of the furnace proceeds according to the following reaction: CaCO3 → CaO + CO2[29] The calcium oxide formed by decomposition reacts with various acidic impurities in the iron (notably silica), to form a fayalitic slag which is essentially calcium silicate, CaSiO3:[33] SiO2 + CaO → CaSiO3[34] The “pig iron” produced by the blast furnace has a relatively high carbon content of around 4–5%, making it very brittle, and of limited immediate commercial use. Some pig iron is used to make cast iron. The majority of pig iron produced by blast furnaces undergoes further processing to reduce the carbon content and produce various grades of steel used for tools and construction materials. Although the efficiency of blast furnaces is constantly evolving, the chemical process inside the blast furnace remains the same. According to the American Iron and Steel Institute: “Blast furnaces will survive into the next millennium because the larger, efficient furnaces can produce hot metal at costs competitive with other iron making technologies.”[29] One of the biggest drawbacks of the blast furnaces is the inevitable carbon dioxide production as iron is reduced from iron oxides by carbon and there is no economical substitute – steelmaking is one of the unavoidable industrial contributors of the CO2 emissions in the world (see greenhouse gases). Hope this helps

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Furnace Operation

Question
I have moved into a house with a high efficiency gas furnace, I think
about 5 years old. I have the fan set to on rather than auto (a
technician recommended this to take advantage, of the attached
electronic air cleaner). I have noticed on occasion, the fan, even
though it is on on, will stop. Also at this time, just to see whats up,
I will crank up the heat so the burners should kick in but they dont.
The breaker hasn’t flipped as the electronic air cleaner is lit. Then
about 5 to 10 minutes later the fan starts and the heat comes. This may
happen more frequently than I notice because it does appear to start up
again. Is this normal operation for such a furnace? If the fan is on on
doesnt that mean it will *always* stay on? And usually when cranking up
the thermostat the burners kick in almost instantly. I am hesitant to
call a technician as the problem, for now seems to come and go. Can
someone suggest the likely cause of such actions?
Answers
Interesting question with alot of answers. On the fan on and off, check to see that
the intake primary air filter to the EAC is clean, then check the temp of the motor,
because it is probably shutting off on internal temp indicating a problem with the
motor or might be caused by the clogged filter. Need to service it more often.
Especially if you run the fan all the time. Do you shut if off when not home? If the
thermostat is set to fan on, the fan should stay on all the time.
On the furnace operation, need to know what type of system you have, including the
thermostat you have running it. If you turn up the thermostat on heat, it should
start the burners, including the delay if you have one on the system.
Check the filter…..
Associated Furnace Operation Question:Is there a solution for my wall furnace’s loud operation?
Hello I live in a small cottage(350 sqft) and am using a Empire FAW-40-1 SPP Fan Type Vented Wall Furnace. The fan is very loud. When it is running my girlfriend and I have to shout at each other to be heard as if we were in a crowded bar. Is there any way to reduce the volume of the fan? Thanks for any help.

  • Answer:can you take the cover off and oil the fan so it is not so loud other than that they do not have a knob were you can turn the fan down.

Associated Furnace Operation Question:Step by Step electrical operation of a Forced Gas furnace and air conditioner?
I would like to know the step by step electrical operation of a Gas forced central air conditioner and heater? I like to know what happens when the thermostat calls for heat and what happens when it calls for cooling? Thanks

  • Answer:The site below has a wiring diagram with how it operates there are several systems Train Carrier, Who was the first AC producer in the world but the site shows how heat and AC is called for in a stacked cooling heating tower. This by no means covers they type that uses water cooling on towers as well which is used in commercial building and hospitals which have humidifiers built in to with air dryers as well. And if you have question send me a note and I will help you to understand the system if you have any questions.

Associated Furnace Operation Question:What role does “back pressure” during high wind conditions have in the operation of a home furnace?

  • Answer:When the pressure gradient equalizes inside the chimney due to wind conditions you have “back pressure”. This will allow flue gases and combustion by-products to remain in the flue or puff-back into the living space. As they accumalate inside the furnace and flue the operation and efficiency of the apppliance is adversely affected. Furnaces require air and exhaust for complete combustion. Incomplete combustion creates carbon monoxide and this occurs when either intake air is limited or exhaust elimination does not occur. This is within the realm of professional chimney sweeps to correct for you.

Associated Furnace Operation Question:Is CaO(s) the principal reducing agent in blast furnace operation?

  • Answer:No calcium oxide CaO is not a reducing agent at all Carbon monoxide is the only reducing aget in the blast furnace. Carbon monoxide is CO incomplete combustion of carbon in coke. CaO is already oxidized and can no longer take any more oxygen at all so it cant reduce any thing. CaO is added so it reacts with SO2 (common name is sand) to from CaSiO3 know as calcium silicate or slag CaO reacts with impurities to from less dense slag so it can be tapped out of the blast furnace leaving pig iron (molten iron)

Associated Furnace Operation Question:where can i find the sequence of operation for a Heil Furnace?

  • Answer:If you have a problem,heil,whirlpool(sears) tempstar are all the same product.

Associated Furnace Operation Question:What are the major componentsand the principle of operation of a Rotary furnace for Industrial metals smelting

  • Answer:Some information http://www.key-to-steel.com/Articles/Art2.htm media.wiley.com/product_data/ excerpt/61/04713870/0471387061.pdf

Associated Furnace Operation Question:I have central air in my mobil home. When in operation I have water leaking around the furnace area.What’s wro

  • Answer:the drain from the ” A-coil” evaporator is plugged up. Many coils are accessible by an access panel, however many times its just dust and lint , turned to mud plugging the drain/ drain hose. If you have access pull cover and look area over with good light, chances are you will see the solution

Associated Furnace Operation Question:What is the sequence of operation on electric furnaces?

  • Answer:the heating coils come on first then depending on where the fan is hooked up to 10 to 15 seconds later the fan should turn on if not the limit will kick out so you dont burn up your coils thats the basic of it t- stat dont call for fan in heat mode only ac mode

Associated Furnace Operation Question:What fails on an electric furnace? What is the cost of operation of running one as compared to an oil furnace
Are there parts that fail on an electric furnace? If you have a power outage, can’t you just use a generator temporarily? Oil burners need electricity too. But they have soot and an oil tank and that transformer to boost up the voltage to 10000 volts or more for the oil to fire between the electrodes surrounding the nozzle on the gun! Just seems to me, that I can install an electric heater in the hot air plenum of my furnace and reduce my oil bill for the winter! Then, if electricity goes up too high, switch back to oil! all I have to do it rewire for the electric heater to come on with a thermostat after the fan comes on so I don’t burn out a heater unit! The furnace I now own already has a season swicth on it that allows the blower to run without the burner when I select that position.

  • Answer:An electric furnace has all the problems you could have with others. Relays, thermostat, etcetera. The 2 different problems you run into with all electric are the heating coil and power outages. I want a house with a wood burning fireplace to make up for outages. Someday.

Associated Furnace Operation Question:I have a 2 electric furnace with heat pump. why does it take so long for the furnace to shut off at 20 degrees?
The furnace is an electric two stage with heat pump. When not on emergency heat, it runs forever before it shuts off. It’s about 24 degrees outside. Is it more economical to run it this way or with just the heat elements? I was told that the heat pump coils would frost up during operation. This is not happening. When will the heat coils kick in to assist the heat pump? We had a repairman out 2 days ago to check things out. He said everything was ok as far as the furnace connections and then checked the heat pump . The defroster board was bad so we got another new one. By the way this is a brand new furnace and heat pump installed a month ago and has not worked properly since. The service guy could not check the coolant level at the time since the board was bad. He said once it was installed ,and it has been, that the heat pump would frost up and that if it needed coolant it would frost up unevenly. It doesn’t frost up at all. ever ! What could be wrong ? I need help fast !!! I just received a 492.00 electric bill from having to run this on emergency heat for a little over 2 weeks. I was supposed to be saving money by putting this in. HELP !!! Had propane fuel before. Cost almost 400.00 to use in a 3 week period. So that wasn’t cost effective. Switched to a pellet stove. That cost as much or more. and didn’t heat the squre footage it said it would. We were told an electric furnace with heat pump would save us money versus what we were sending on other sources. This is turning into a complete NIGHTMARE.

  • Answer:the coils should start immediately to assist the pump,a heat pump has very limited heat without them,check to see if everything is working,if not call a repairman

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Furnace In Jerusalem

Question
“Altar drenched in blood”?

Um, no.

Ariel means “lion of God.” Anyone with a rudimentary knowledge of Hebrew can
figure out this one. The reference to Isaiah that Joe pointed out some five
years ago refers to Jerusalem, which as some have pointed out is sometimes
referred to biblically as “Ariel.” The lion is the symbol of the tribe of
Judah. Jerusalem was the capital of the Kingdom of Judah. Ergo, Ariel is a
euphemism for Jerusalem.

Important to consider is the cognate “Uriel,” which means “fire or furnace
of God.” The spelling, in the Masoretic Hebrew, would be the same as
“Ariel.” The notion of “Ur” meaning “furnace” is rabbinical, viz., the
rabbis determining that Abraham having come from “Ur of the Chaldees” means
that he was tested in a furnace, like the three friends of Daniel, for
refusing to submit to idolatry. Of course, as Jerusalem was the site of the
Temple, where sacrifices on altars were burned, Uriel can just as easily be
applied to Jerusalem, as it was a furnace or fire for God.

The absence of the word or root “dam” (i.e., blood) in the word “Ariel”
clearly indicates that Joe doesn’t know what he’s talking about. By his own
admission, he cannot read or speak Hebrew. Nor does the word “blood” appear
in Isaiah 29:1-3.

Game, set, match, eh?

Over and out. Responses ignored.
Answers
You mean, “much to my amusement,” because they decidedly did not
support the business end of your still-unsupported allegation, and
you were reduced to neeners when it became clear to you that we were
right.
Associated Furnace In Jerusalem Question:If God destroyed the Nation of Israel * his Chosen on a number of occasions- Can anyone say they truly Saved?
The original nation of Israel was divided into two kingdoms, the ten-tribe kingdom of Israel to the north with Samaria as capital, and the two-tribe kingdom of Judah to the south with Jerusalem as capital. The northern ten-tribe kingdom was destroyed by the Assyrians in 740 B.C., and then in 607 B.C. the kingdom of Judah was destroyed by the Babylonians. And… In 70 C.E., as foretold at Malachi 4:1, a “day . . . burning like the furnace” came upon fleshly Israel. Jerusalem and her temple were destroyed, and it is reported that over one million people died as a result of famine, power struggles, and attacks by the Roman armies. Eddie- l am bringing ” saved” into it- because the concept of ” Once Saved- Always Saved” runs strong among people.. therefore the question. Got it?

  • Answer:God has never entirely destroyed His people…there has always been a remnant. You’re also equating finite destruction of the temporal to “being saved”, which is an eternal position…the premise collapses there.

Associated Furnace In Jerusalem Question:Interesting facts about Iraq and the Bible?
1. The Garden of Eden was in Iraq. 2. Mesopotamia, which is now Iraq, was the cradle of civilazation! 3. Noah built the ark in Iraq. 4. The Tower of Babel was in Iraq 5. Abraham was from Ur, which is in Southern Iraq! 6. Isaac’s wife Rebekah is from Nahor, which is in Iraq! 7. Jacob met Rachel in Iraq. 8. Jonah preached in Nineveh – which is in Iraq. 9. Assyria, which is in Iraq, conquered the ten tribes of Israel. 10. Amos cried out in Iraq! 11. Babylon, which is in Iraq, destroyed Jerusalem. 12. Daniel was in the lion’s den in Iraq! 13. The three Hebrew children were in the fire in Iraq (Jesus had been in Iraq also as the fourth person in the Fiery furnace!) 14. Belshazzar, the King of Babylon saw the “writing on the wall” in Iraq. 15. Nebuchadnezzar, King of Babylon, carried the Jews captive into Iraq. 16. Ezekiel preached in Iraq. 17. The wise men were from Iraq 18. Peter preached in Iraq. 19. The “Empire of Man” described in Revelation is called Babylon, which was a city in Iraq! And you have probably seen this one. Israel is the nation most often mentioned in the Bible. But do you know which nation is second? It is Iraq! However, that is not the name that is used in the Bible The names used in the Bible are Babylon, Land of Shinar, and Mesopotamia . The word Mesopotamia means between the two rivers, more exactly between the Tigris and Euphrates Rivers. The name Iraq, means country with deep roots. Indeed Iraq is a country with deep roots and is a very significant country in the Bible. No other nation, except Israel, has more history and prophecy associated it than Iraq.

  • Answer:I never knew all of that..thanks. Do you work for the Iraqi tourism board?..

Associated Furnace In Jerusalem Question:Was The Entire Story Of Moses Fabricated? Sodom and Gomorrah A fairy Tail?
It’s plain to see that Israel is just a story, not a fact. Consider the descriptions of Mt. Sinai in or around Palestine: Exodus 20:15 All the people witnessed the thunder and lightening and the blare of the horn and the mountain smoking; and when the people saw it, they fell back and stood at a distance. Exodus 19:18-19 Now Mt. Sinai was all in smoke, for the Lord had come down upon it in fire; the smoke rose like the smoke of a kiln and the whole mountain trembled violently. Now the destruction of the Biblical cities in Sodom and Gomorrah had long been considered a result of volcanic eruption. The bible says that ” the Lord rained upon Sodom and Gomorrah brimestone and fire from the Lord out of heaven…..and lo, the smoke of the country went up as a smoke of the furnace. (Genesis 19:24, 19:28) Seeing these descriptions as referring to Jerusalem in Palestine and the traditional Mt Sinai is very odd, SINCE MT. SINAI LOCATED ON THE MODERN SINAI PENINSULA HAD NEVER BEEN A VOLCANO. Where did the events really take place then? To see that there are no volcano’s on the Sinai Peninsula, and there aren’t any in either Palestine or Syria. In fact there hasn’t been any volcanic activity in documented history. The only relevant geographic zone that possesses volcano’s active to this day is the area including Italy and Sicily..since there aren’t any volcano’s in Egypt or anywhere in Northern Africa, then the events of Moses and Sodom and Gomorrah didn’t take place in the Middle East. There’s only one volcano in the Mediterranean that fits the description, and that is Mt. Vesuvius. 1. A power volcano that was active in the historical epoch 2. A destroyed capital near the volcano ( see the Lamentations of Jeremiah ) 3. Two more destroyed cities near the volcano, Sodom and Gomorrah. So why are the Jews occupying Palestine when their fabricated story (Israel) lies in Italy and Sicily? Did the Jews attempt to occupy other countries in the past besides Palestine? Before the Roman occupation Palestine wasn’t populated entirely with Jews. There were Arabs and other people living in Palestine along with Jews. Why is it important to only focus on Jewish decent in the Middle East area? And have they tried to establish a Jewish state in other modern countries in recent history? While you’re at. Go tell the Prime Minister. And trust me. Anything evil will not last for a long time.

  • Answer:I’ve studied alot about them both being tied to alien beings and ships being mistaken for god. It happens all throughout the bible. Ezekiel 1:1,27 (I believe) is a great example of aliens in the bible as well

Associated Furnace In Jerusalem Question:Why are there so many errors in the Bible?
IRON AX HEAD FLOATS. 2KGS 6:5-6 DONKEY TALKS. NUM 22:27-28 SNAKE TALKS. GEN 3:1 MAN WALKS ON WATER. MT 14:24-25 ONE LUNCH BASKET FEEDS THOUSANDS. MT 14:19-21 MEN LONG DEAD SEEN WALKING IN JERUSALEM. MT 27:52-53 MAGICIAN TURNS WATER INTO WINE. JN 2:6-11 SUN BACKS UP. 2KGS 22:3-11 RABBIT CHEWS THE CUD. LV 11:6 CAMEL DOES NOT DIVIDE THE HOOF. LV 11:4 FOUR LEGGED GRASSHOPPERS AND BEETLES. LV 11:21-23 GOURD PLANT MAKES SHADE TREE OVER NIGHT. JN 4:6-10 WORDS CONTROL WEATHER. MT 8:24-26 NEW WAY TO GREAT WEALTH. MT 21:22 GOD ADMITS LYING EZ 14:9. 2CHR 18:22 GOD DECEIVES PEOPLE OF EARTH. 2THES 2:11-12 SNAKE LOSES LEGS(they never had legs). GEN 3:14 GOD DELIBERATELY KEEPS PEOPLE FROM SALVATION(hes not loving). JN 12:40 MEN SURVIVE BLAZING FURNACE UNHARMED(impossible). DAN 3:6-27 SUN STANDS STILL. JOS 10:12-13 MAN RISES FROM THE DEAD. JN 11:44 MAN CALLS DOWN FIRE FROM SKY. 1KG18:33-38, 2KG1:10-12 ANGELS SEDUCE EARTH WOMEN. GEN 6:4 SUPER ALIENS FIGHT WAR IN SPACE. REV 12:7-9 FIRE IN BUSH TALKS TO MAN. EX 3:2-5 MAN SEES WHOLE EARTH FROM TEMPLE TOP. MT 4:8-9 WOMAN TURNS INTO SODIUM CHLORIDE IN SECONDS. GEN 19:26 ETERNAL FLOUR BUCKET DISCOVERED. 1KG 17:12-16 SHOES GUARANTIED FORTY YEARS, PANTS TOO. DU 29:5 TREE MAKES POISONED WATER DRINKABLE. EX 15:23-25 LONG HAIR MAKES MAN STRONG. JUG 16:17 HAIRCUT MAKES MAN WEAK. JUG 16:19 HOW THE RAINBOW GOT STARTED. GEN 9:13 GOD WILL DESTROY WISDOM AND UNDERSTANDING. 1COR 1:19 ALL LANGUAGES CAME FROM ONE PLACE(get a text book). GEN 11:6-9 GOD LOVES A GOOD BARBECUE. GEN 8:20-21 MAGIC STICK TURNS WATER INTO BLOOD. EX 7:20-22 DUST TURNED INTO LICE. EX 8:16-19 GHOST HAND WRITES GRAFFITI ON WALL. DAN 5:5 WITCH HUNT BEGUN BY GOD. EX 22:18 COCKATRICE ARE REAL. JER 8:17, IS 14:29 SATYRS ARE COMING. IS 34:14, 13:21 FIERY SERPENTS ABOUND. NUM 21:6, DU 8:15 WINGED SERPENTS COMING TO GET YOU. IS 30:6, 14:29 if the whole earth had EVER been flooded to the mountaintops, it would STILL be flooded to the mountaintops. Somebody lied about the flood. Someone stretched the truth beyond comprehension. It never happened, unless one is willing to accept the first mention of the flood as being 15 cubits high. If so, we are being told about a local storm and flood. Virginia has much better floods than that almost every year. There is geological evidence of great tidal waves, which swept over the earth, but we have enough water on earth all ready to account for this. what did Noah do with the urine and manure? Did God constipate all the animals for a whole year? I have seen the vast amount of manure a few animals can deliver in one day. I have had to shovel it out of the stalls. Where did Noah and his three helpers put the manure for a whole year? The Bible tells us the animals were in the ark 376 days, “…from the seventeenth day of the second month of the first year, until the twenty seventh day of the second month of the second year.” Where did Noah get his water for himself and the animals? Don’t say from the flood, because even if four miles of fresh water were mixed with the ocean’s waters, the salt content would be far too high to drink without killing the animals and the humans. Noah would have had to tow another ark as big as his first one just to have survival water for the animals for 376 days. Nothing is mentioned about another ark.

  • Answer:1. miracle. can you not percieve anything? 2. miracle 3. supernatural 4. miracle 5. miracle 6. miracle 7. Jesus wasn’t a magician 8. miracle 9. hard translation. not this was written 3050 years ago, so it could refer to a rabbit-hare relative 10. different, now extinct likely, species of camel? 11. metaphor: four legged = crawls (on all fours) 12. again, miracle 13. miracle. do you even know what one is? 14. relative. you will recieve what you want CONCERNING your NEEDS or concerning SPIRITUALITY 15. entice and lie aren’t the same word. the prophet wants to bring hope, inspired out of a want to be on God’s good side, but it’s a sense of false hope 16. strong delusion. not deception. He means He allows the devil to trick people without Him stopping it. the truth was already foretold, so if you didn’t believe it, boo hoo. 17. so evolution is false then? reptiles made many changes long ago. why not this one? 18. “he” refers to the devil. “I” refers to Christ. it follows English sentence structure, capitalization of the first letter of a sentence…. 19. miracle. 20. miracle. 21. Jesus 22. Miracle 23. miracle 24. possible 25. need I say it? miracle 26. Heaven, not heavens. where does the word “extraterrestrial” or anything similar appear there? 27. miracle 28. first off, mountain. secondly, supernatural, representational 29. supernatural, from God 30. eternal means without beginning and without end. it lasted a lot longer than natural. miracle 31. pants weren’t invented yet. miracle 32. extinct plant, result of obedience… wasn’t poisoned, bitter 33. covenant 34. covenant 35. really? light refracted through water droplets doesn’t seem to contradict it. besides, with our whether cycles, it’s pretty unlikely for all the water to build up at once and flood the planet. 36. duh, those who find pride in worldly wisdom and intelligence will be seen as stupid and foolish. how’s this an error? 37. you’ll notice all ancient languages have no record of who started them, as in which human(s). 38. why wouldn’t He? and what are you, 10? He likes obedience and a good heart. you gunna try and sue Him for that? 39. miracle, not magic 40. gnats aren’t lice. and supernatural act of God 41. so who started it then? error how? 42. how is this an error? 43. it says snakes. read it. 44. ??? how’s that relate? 45. venomous. not fiery. besides, they found a suspected dragon in china I heard 46. there are gliding tree-snakes fyi. and I see darting. there is currently enough water on earth to flood it. it’s called the hydrosphere. they say that if the ice-caps melted, northern America would be covered under a mile of water atleast. a lot is underground or frozen in the icecaps though. in the flood, gysers, rain and underwater upheavals occured and the ground didn’t swell up the water, nor did it evaporate soon enough. doesn’t this sound a lot like the start of climate change to you? waste can be burned as fuel (he had to have a lamp going) or collected into a container. wood, when tightly sealed, can act as a pretty good container or ‘gas chamber’. and there were 8 passengers. the wives could have helped. it says 150 days it was flooded (230 wet days). read closer or do better math. God told Noah to provide sustainance for him and the animals before-hand. depening on the interior of the ark and the amount of animals, the ark could’ve had lots of room. do you realize that these aren’t things you can argue as errors? seriously, this is kind of amateur work. but thanks, I needed to read the Bible more!

Associated Furnace In Jerusalem Question:Does anyone know if there is any truth to this?
I recieved this in an e-mail, and I was wondering if there’s any truth here. 1. The Garden of Eden was in Iraq . 2. Mesopotamia, which is now Iraq, was the cradle of civilization! 3. Noah built the ark in Iraq . 4. The Tower of Babel was in Iraq 5. Abraham was from Ur, which is in Southern Iraq ! 6. Isaac’s wife Rebekah is from Nahor, which is in Iraq ! 7. Jacob met Rachel in Iraq . 8. Jonah preached in Nineveh – which is in Iraq . 9. Assyria, which is in Iraq, conquered the ten tribes of Israel . 10. Amos cried out in Iraq ! 11. Babylon, which is in Iraq, destroyed Jerusalem . 12. Daniel was in the lion’s den in Iraq ! 13. The three Hebrew children were in the fire in Iraq (Jesus had been in Iraq also as the fourth person in the Fiery Furnace!) 14. Belshazzar, the King of Babylon saw the “writing on the wall” in Iraq . 15. Nebuchadnezzar, King of Babylon, carried the Jews captive into Iraq . 16. Ezekiel preached in Iraq . 17. The wise men were from Iraq . 18. Peter preached in Iraq . 19. The “Empire of Man” described in Revelation is called Babylon, which was a city inIraq! What parts are true? Which aren’t?

  • Answer:Not much truth in it. 1. Garden of Eden = Iran 2. Cradle of Civilization = Lake Victoria, Africa 3. True 4. True 5. Abraham was from Mari 6. Nahor is a man, not a location 7. Mari again 8. True 9. True 10. True 11. True 12. True 13. True 14. True 15. True 16. True 17. Probably Iran or Idumaea 18. False – Pter meant Rome 19. False – Rome again

Associated Furnace In Jerusalem Question:Everything Our troop are doing in iraq, its in the koran….although its not for politics money or power,?
Our govs reasons for being there are whack but we are trying to make them and independant country… Let the heavens rejoice, and let the earth be glad; and let them say among the nations, “The Lord reigns.” 1 Chronicles 16:3 1. The Garden of Eden was in Iraq . 2. Mesopotamia, which is now Iraq , was the cradle of civilization! 3. Noah built the ark in Iraq . 4. The Tower of Babel was in Iraq 5. Abraham was from Ur , which is in Southern Iraq ! 6. Isaac’s wife Rebekah is from Nahor, which is in Iraq ! 7. Jacob met Rachel in Iraq . 8. Jonah preached in Nineveh – which is in Iraq . 9. Assyria, which is in Iraq , conquered the ten tribes of Israel . 10 Amos cried out in Iraq ! 11. Babylon , which is in Iraq , destroyed Jerusalem . 12. Daniel was in the lion’s den in Iraq ! 13. The three Hebrew children were in the fire in Iraq (Jesus had been in Iraq also as the fourth person in the Fiery Furnace!) 14. Belshazzar, the King of Babylon saw the “writing on the wall” in Iraq . 15. Nebuchadnezzar, King of Babylon, carried the Jews captive into Iraq . 16. Ezekiel preached in Iraq . 17. The wise men were thought to be from Iraq . 18. Peter preached in Iraq . 19. The “Empire of Man” described in Revelation is called Babylon , which was a city in Iraq ! And you have probably seen this one: Israel is the nation most often mentioned in the Bible. But do you know which nation is second? It is Iraq ! However, that is not the name that is used in the Bible. The names used in the Bible are Babylon , Land ofShinar, and Mesopotamia . The word Mesopotamia means between the two rivers, more exactly between the Tigris and Euphrates Rivers. The name Iraq , means country with deep roots. Indeed Iraq is a country with deep roots and is a very significant country in the Bible. No other nation, except Israel , has more history and prophecy associated with it than Iraq . And also, This is something to think about: Since America is typically represented by an eagle. Saddam should have read up on his Muslim passages… The following verse is from the Koran, (the Islamic Bible) Koran (9:11 ) – For it is written that a son of Arabia would awaken a fearsome Eagle. The wrath of the Eagle would be felt throughout the lands of Allah and lo, while some of the people trembled in despair still more rejoiced; for the wrath of the Eagle cleansed the lands of Allah; and there was peace. (Note the verse number!)

  • Answer:The last part is an urban myth, the actual verse; Chapter 9 verse 11, “But if they repent and keep up prayer and pay the poor-rate, they are your brethren in faith; and we make the communications clear for a people who know.” (M. H. Shakir translation)

Associated Furnace In Jerusalem Question: Christians & Muslims answer please?
I just got this email. How does it make you feel? 1. The Garden of Eden was in Iraq 2. Mesopotamia, which is now Iraq, was the cradle of civilization! 3. Noah built the ark in Iraq 4. The Tower of Babel was in Iraq 5. Abraham was from Ur, which is in Southern Iraq ! 6. Isaac’s wife Rebekah is from Nahor, which is in Iraq ! 7. Jacob met Rachel in Iraq 8. Jonah preached in Nineveh – which is in Iraq 9. Assyria, which is in Iraq, conquered the ten tribes of Israel 10. Amos cried out in Iraq ! 11 Babylon, which is in Iraq, destroyed Jerusalem 12. Daniel was in the lion’s den in Iraq ! 13. The three Hebrew children were in the fire in Iraq (Jesus had been in Iraq also as the fourth person in the Fiery Furnace!) 14. Belshazzar, the King of Babylon saw the ‘writing on the wall’ in Iraq 15. Nebuchadnezzar, King of Babylon, carried the Jews captive into Iraq 16. Ezekiel preached in Iraq .. 17. The wise men were from Iraq .. 18. Peter preached in Iraq . 19. The ‘Empire of Man’ described in Revelation is called Babylon , which was a city in Iraq ! And you have probably seen this one: Israel is the nation most often mentioned in the Bible.But do you know which nation is second?It is Iraq !However, that is not the name that is used in the Bible. The names used in the Bible are Babylon , Land of Shinar , and Mesopotamia … The word Mesopotamia means between the two rivers, more exactly between the Tigris And Euphrates Rivers .The name Iraq, means country with deep roots.Indeed Iraq is a country with deep roots and is a very significant country in the Bible. And also, This is something to think about:Since America is typically represented by an eagle. Koran ( 9:11 ) – For it is written that a son of Arabia would awaken a fearsome Eagle.. The wrath of the Eagle would be felt throughout the lands of Allah and lo, while some of the people trembled in despair still more rejoiced; for the wrath of the Eagle cleansed the lands of Allah; And there was peace. (Note the verse number!) This is a ribbon for soldiers fighting in Iraq. Pass it on to everyone and pray. Like I said, I just got this as an email to pass it along to support our American Troops over in Iraq. I am just curious of others opinion because I find it very fascinating. Ok, I did some research and found this link off of IslamiCity.com, if your interested, got to http://quod.lib.umich.edu/cgi/k/koran/koran-idx?type=simple&q1=9%3A11&size=First+100

  • Answer:No. That is not what ‘Quran’ verse 9:11 says… I have seen the e-mail that has been circulated around at least a dozen times since 9-11. Bit like the Zionist are stirring it up again. Verse 9:11 speaks of… repentance and establishing regular prayers and practicing charity and the signs are explained for those who understand. I guess they (The Zionists) didn’t understand or do not want to understand, even in Arabic there is no doubt in the interpretation. It is propaganda you know…

Associated Furnace In Jerusalem Question:What do you think?
Look at this… Do you think that the coming of christ is near? What do you think about this letter. This is serious, do not write rude answers. Read all. VERY INTERESTING- 1. The Garden of Eden was in Iraq. 2. Mesopotamia, which is now Iraq, was the cradle of civilization! 3. Noah built the ark in Iraq. 4. The Tower of Babel was in Iraq 5. Abraham was from Ur, which is in Southern Iraq! 6. Isaac’s wife Rebekah is from Nahor, which is in Iraq! 7. Jacob met Rachel in Iraq. 8. Jonah preached in Nineveh – which is in Iraq. 9. Assyria, which is in Iraq, conquered the ten tribes of Israel. 10. Amos cried out in Iraq! 11. Babylon, which is in Iraq, destroyed Jerusalem. 12. Daniel was in the lion’s den in Iraq! 13. The three Hebrew children were in the fire in Iraq (Jesus had been in Iraq also as the fourth person in the Fiery furnace!) 14. Belshazzar, the King of Babylon saw the “writing on the wall” in Iraq. 15. Nebuchadnezzar, King of Babylon, carried the Jews captive into Iraq. 16. Ezekiel preached in Iraq. 17. The wise men were from Iraq 18. Peter preached in Iraq. 19. The “Empire of Man” described in Revelation is called Babylon, which was a city in Iraq! And you have probably seen this one. Israel is the nation most often mentioned in the Bible. But do you know which nation is second? It is Iraq! However, that is not the name that is used in the Bible The names used in the Bible are Babylon, Land of Shinar, and Mesopotamia . The word Mesopotamia means between the two rivers, more exactly between the Tigris and Euphrates Rivers. The name Iraq, means country with deep roots. Indeed Iraq is a country with deep roots and is a very significant country in the Bible. No other nation, except Israel, has more history and prophecy associated it than Iraq. And also, this is something to think about! Since America is typically represented by an eagle. Saddam should have read up on his Muslim passages… The following verse is from the Koran, (the Islamic Bible) Koran (9:11 ) – For it is written that a son of Arabia would awaken a fearsome Eagle. The wrath of the Eagle would be felt throughout the lands of Allah and lo, while some of the people trembled in despair still more rejoiced; for the wrath of the Eagle cleansed the lands of Allah; and there was peace. (Note the verse number!) Hmmmmmmm?! This is a ribbon for soldiers fighting in Iraq. Pass it on to everyone and pray.

  • Answer:You forgot #20: The end of the Bush administration was in Iraq…

Question:9
Subject:The BIBLE: VERY INTERESTING!?
Content::VERY INTERESTING – 1. The garden of Eden was in Iraq. 2. Mesopotamia, which is now Iraq, was the cradle of civilization! 3.. Noah built the ark in Iraq. 4. The Tower of Babel was in Iraq. 5. Abraham was from Ur, which is in Southern Iraq! 6. Isaac’s wife Rebekah is from Nahor, which is in Iraq! 7. Jacob met Rachel in Iraq. 8. Jonah preached in Nineveh – which is in Iraq. 9. Assyria, which is in Iraq, conquered the ten tribes of Israel. 10. Amos cried out in Iraq! 11. Babylon, which is in Iraq, destroyed Jerusalem. 12. Daniel was in the lion’s den in Iraq! 13. The three Hebrew children were in the fire in Iraq (Jesus had been in Iraq also as the fourth person in the fiery furnace!) 14. Belshazzar, the King of Babylon saw the “writing on the wall” in Iraq. 15. Nebuchadnezzar, King of Babylon, carried the Jews captive into Iraq. 16. Ezekiel preached in Iraq. 17. The wise men were from Iraq. 18. Peter preached in Iraq. 19. The “Empire of Man” described in Revelation is called Babylon, which was a city in Iraq! And you have probably seen this one. Israel is the nation most often mentioned in the Bible. But do you know which nation is second? It is Iraq! However, that is not the name that is used in the Bible. The names used in the Bible are Babylon, Land of Shinar, and Mesopotamia. The word Mesopotamia means between the two rivers, more exactly between the Tigris and Euphrates Rivers. The name Iraq, means country with deep roots. Indeed Iraq is a country with deep roots and is a very significant country in the Bible. No other nation, except Israel, has more history and prophecy associated it than Iraq. And also… This is something to think about! Since America is typically represented by an eagle. Saddam shou! ld have read up on his Muslim passages… The following verse i s from the Koran, (the Islamic Bible) Koran (9:11) – For it is written that a son of Arabia would awaken a fearsome Eagle. The wrath of the Eagle would be felt throughout the lands of Allah and lo, while some of the people trembled in despair still more rejoiced; for the wrath of the Eagle cleansed the lands of Allah; and there was peace. (Note the verse number!) Hmmmmmmm?! God Bless you all Amen !
BestAnswer:That’s crazy (unbelievable)! Now I have a lot to discuss with my bible study leader.

Question:10
Subject:Just a thought (or two)?
Content::1. The Garden of Eden was in Iraq. 2. Mesopotamia, which is now Iraq, was the cradle of civilization 3. Noah built the ark in Iraq. 4. The Tower of Babel was in Iraq 5. Abraham was from Ur, which is in Southern Iraq! 6. Isaac’s wife Rebekah is from Nahor, which is in Iraq! 7. Jacob met Rachel in Iraq. 8. Jonah preached in Nineveh – Which is in Iraq. 9. Assyria, which is in Iraq, conquered the ten tribes of Israel. 10 Amos cried out in Iraq! 11. Babylon, which is in Iraq, destroyed Jerusalem. 12. Daniel was in the lion’s den in Iraq! 13. The three Hebrew children were in the fire in Iraq (Jesus had been in Iraq also as the fourth person in the Fiery Furnace!) 14. Belshazzar, the King of Babylon saw the “writing on the wall” in Iraq. 15. Nebuchadnezzar, King of Babylon, carried the Jews captive into Iraq. 16. Ezekiel preached in Iraq. 17. The wise men were from Iraq. 18. Peter preached 18. Peter preached in Iraq. 19. The “Empire of Man” described in Rev19. The “Empire of Man” described in Revelation is called Babylon, which was a city in Iraq! And you have probably seen this one: Israel is the nation most often mentioned in the Bible. But do you know which nation is second? It is Iraq! However, that is not the name that is used in the Bible. The names used in the Bible are Babylon, Land of Shinar, and Mesopotamia … The word Mesopotamia means between the two rivers, more exactly between the Tigris And Euphrates Rivers. The name Iraq, means country with deep roots. Indeed Iraq is a country with deep roots and is a very significant country in the Bible. No other nation, except Israel, has more history and prophecy associated with it than Iraq.

  • Answer:i see you iraqd your brain on this one then….

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Carrier Furnace Nomenclature

Question
I have a Carrier Furnace about 5 years old, and recently it has
started the start-stop cycle excessively. This is what happens

1. Thermostat starts up furnace
2. Ignitor lights up
3. After a while flame starts up
4. After some time blower starts up
5. Soon after, the furnace shuts down (approx 60 – 75 secs after 3).

Few minutes later, start with step 1 again. This takes forever for the
house to heat up, and the temp never actually gets to the target temp.

My wall unit thermostat is not a very fancy one. It has two temp settings
with mercury bulbs to make/break contacts.

Could anyone point out if the problem is with the thermostat or the
furnace itself? Any and all help appreciated.

Thanx,
Answers

Sam’s advice might be right, but in my Carrier furnace the safety
interlock he refers to is located in the flue and functions to turn the
furnace OFF if the ignitor doesn’t function, i.e. if it doesn’t sense
heat in the flue after 20 or 30 seconds. When this happens, this
thermostat must be reset manually before the furnace will come on again.
However, there is yet another thermocouple located in the firebox, which
also controls the housefan, oilpump and ignitor and could be causing the
problem you describe. Mine has adjustments which determine the temperature
at which the fan should come on and a maximum temperature at which the
ignitor is turned off to prevent damage from overheating. (It’s working in
collaboration with your house thermostat to regulate these functions.) This
thermostat may be malfunctioning due to damage, soot buildup or improper
adjustment. If the temperature at which the fan is set to come on is too
high, the firebox will have achieved too high a temperature by the time
the fan comes on and the temperature will overrun the maximum shortly after
the fan does come on, shutting the whole system down until the firebox
temperature returns to the ’safe’ zone, when it starts the ignition cycle
all over. It might also be that the house fan is simply not moving enough
air around the firebox to keep its temperature below the safe maximum (fan
speed too low, extremely clogged air filter, etc.) Still another possibility
(if it is oil-fired) is that too much oil is being sprayed, producing so
much heat that even the properly functioning fan can’t keep the
temperature down to a safe level. This isn’t too likely unless you just
replaced your original spray nozzle with one that was too large.

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58mxa carrier furnace

Question

HVAC Gurus,
I just received an estimate to replace my aging Oil Furnace with a new Gas
furnace (Everything else but the furnace in the house is gas).

He proposed the following:

Line chimney
AC Coil (5 tons cooling)
Condensation Pump
Remove oil tank (275 gallon from basement)
Carrier Weathermaker 9200 58MXA 120,000 BTU (2,600 sq ft house, built in the
1940’s)
PVC to rear of the house for the direct vent

The total price for this is $6000 (including all labor and removal of the
old furnace).  An optional item that I would like to add to this is a
Honeywell humidifier for $395 installed.

My first question is, does this seem like a reasonable price?  It’s a bit
higher than another estimate I received for a similar system ($1000 higher)
but this person really seemed to know what he was doing.  Then again, he’s
just the person writing the quote.  Not the installer.

My second question is does anyone have opinions on this particular furnace?
The other person suggested a Trane XE90 (TUX120C960B).  Any opinions on this
one?

Thanks for any advice,

Answers

I LOVE this furnace (a very biased opinion! I gas/vent them every
day!). Make darn sure the installer sets it up properly, there are many
options as far as airflow, dehumidification, humidification, zoning,
staging, and etc… Pricing is determined by many factors that are
unique to the job… how much ductwork, gas piping, removal of existing
and etc… This is a very quiet furnace, and has been very reliable…
the only failures I have seen were due to neglect… no modern furnace
will stand much water or lack of maintenance, these are the two main
problems I have seen with this furnace.

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